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    This page is for questions and additions related to the information posted by the Bigelow Society.
    The Query Page that Don Bigelow set up is getting too big, so I started this.................ROD 01/07/99
My e-mail is  bigelow@slic.com
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There is also My Family.com set up by David Duanewzbngpop@worldnet.att.net  )........11/12/99
There is also FamilyHistory.com which has postings.................................05/12/2000
There is also a Bigelow Family Genealogy Forum set up by Family Tree Maker, that has postings. 01/31/99
There is now a Family Search site from The Latter Day Saints (LDS)........................5/10/99 
also search  RootsWeb Surname List for contacts....................3/11/99
This page used to be http://www.slic.com/bigelow/bulboard.htm
Moved to http://bigelow.simplenet.com/rod/bulboard.htm
See Old Bigelow Notes 1998 for messages I am just now getting around to.....ROD 1/26/2000.


Subject: Olive
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 05:20:23 -0500
From:  "June Bastille" <  u16648@earthlink.net  >
Hello,
    My great-grandmother Nellie Stephens, daughter of Andrew Stephens and Olive Bigelow, married a Joel Wheaton who
was also born in Colchester, CT.  Joel died from an horse and wagon accident in Lyme, CT. where they lived, leaving
several children, my grandfather Albert Edgar Wheaton  is one of their children.  After his father's death his mother could
not care for all of the children he went to live with family/friends in Lebanon, CT.  The family got separated.  Do you have
any information on this family?
Regards,
June Bastille/Lebanon, CT.
(answered) see Olive 7 Bigelow ..................................ROD


Subject: Bigelow Society
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 06:46:09 -0800
From: "Louise Cross" <   louisecross@angelfire.com   >
Hi,
I have just visited the Society page and found it very interesting. I'm decended from Samuel Bigelow and Mary Flagg's daughter Sarah who married Josiah Howe. I wasn't sure if the membership of the society was only open to people with that surname or any decendants..could you please let me know. Thanks
Louise Cross
Queensland Australia
I answered her "we are open to all".................................ROD


Subject: John Winthrop/Winthrop Woman.
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:09:35 EST
From: Dee Cary     JHSB@aol.com
     I was pleased to find your message on the Warren/Bigelow web page.  I have done quite a lot of research on our ancestors, many of whom came with Winthrop and before.  I have also visited many of the places in England re research, including these villages. You mentioned that you are very knowledgeable on Winthrop.
     Being a descendant of Bigelow and Warren. I have spent some time trying to locate the documents re the incident that the Warrens/Knapps were responsible for Elizabeth leaving Mass in 1649. as quoted in the book, the Winthrop Woman.  This book is listed an 'historical researched' novel, not a biography, and mentions the reason for Elizabeth Fones leaving Watertown in 1649 was an accusation of witchcraft by the Goody Warrens and Knapps.
     From my research, this appears to me to be unfair and unfounded statement, and placed in the book by the author to give a dramatic content. Some folks are inclined to take this a little too seriously. Therefore could you, or a Winthrop researcher, quote/give me a documental source/evidence for this incident?  I have been unable to locate any and the recent NEHGR article on Capt. Patrick, confirms that she left Mass. because she was living with Mr. Hallett, and therefore unacceptable to their strict Puritian 'ways'.
     As you mentioned in your letter, people take what is written as the undisputed truth. The book is a novel, so the author did not have to write with historical accuracy, but to market a book, and protect her heroine's image.  I have no problem with that, but if the Warren/Knapp family are as I believe totally innocent, (they did live next to Rev. George Phillips in England and members of his church!!), then a correction by one of her Winthrop descendants, prior to a TV documentary, would be a gracious gesture
and in keeping with such a lady.
Yours sincerely, Dee Cary.
see Winthrop Woman...............................................ROD


Subject: Robert Campbell
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 11:39:24 -0000
From: John & Diane Campbell <  jcampbell@rcsis.com  >
Just a note to give you a little more info on Robert Campbell and Belinda Woodward daughter of Samuel Woodward and
Eunice Bigelow. Roberts father Robert Campbell was born 1761 and was with Capt. Hatch and Col. Bond 37th Regiment 1775-summer 1777 Rev. War. He also had the following childen in addition to Robert. Ira,Betsy,Martha,and Julia.I find it interesting that Roberts sister, Julia spouse was also a Woodward . Samuel Woodward. Brother of Belinda? Another project.
 Thanks again for your help.
 John Campbell
jcampbell@rcsis.com
see Eunice 5 Bigelow.............................................ROD


Subject: History of Boylston, MA plus VRs plus Tombstone Inscriptions!
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 22:53:16 EST
From: Janet Farnsworth  Farns10th@aol.com
 
Some Wetherbees and lots of Bigelows and lots and lots of folks associated with Groton, MA and Lancaster etc!   And many of the Fort 4 surnames...awesome! Maynards and a couple of Lockes, many Hartshorns etc Osgoods too.
Boylston, MA

http://www.ultranet.com/~boyhisoc/record.htm  Boylston MA Records On-Line

http://www.ultranet.com/~boyhisoc/burial.htm  Old Burial Ground, Boylston , MA

 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/7688/histser.htm  Index to the Boylston Historical Series of Books

 http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=&csz=01510 Map of  Boylston, Lancaster and Clinton, MA

also see Brief History of CLINTON, MA (once part of Lancaster, MA)  w/Bigelow Bros.
http://bigelow.simplenet.com/rod7/clintonv.htm

and  http://bigelow.simplenet.com/rod/erastus7.htm



Subject: bigelow family
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 12:45:55 -0800
From: "Blaine Burrell" <   catboy@cet.com   >
 
John Day Bigelow was my gggrandfather,he was born in iowa in 1854,died in perry iowa in 1925.he was married to Elcy Barney.Nothing else is known of his family,am looking for any info on them?
My Name is Elsie Burrell
E. 4814 Peone Pines Dr.
Mead Wa. 99021
Email is catboy@cet.com
nothing yet.........................................................ROD


Subject: Paschel Bigelow (1916-1870)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:03:16 EST
From:Matt Beckwith    BigBeckNap@aol.com
Hello Rod...  I was looking for more info on Paschel Bigelow (1916-1870) who was my ggg grandfather.
Thanx so much.
Matt Beckwith
http://www.mattbeckwith.com
see Paschel 7 Bigelow.............................................................ROD


Subject: BIGELOW graves, Grove Hill, Waltham
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:48:44 EST
From: Texzilla2@aol.com
 
 Mr Bigelow,
        The graves of Samuel² BIGELOW and Mary FLAGG are still intact as of  November, 1998.  I was photographed kneeling between the two by the late Timothy Gordon Taylor of Dedham, and I kept a leaf that was lodged up against
Samuel's grave.  I come from John¹, Samuel², Samuel³, and his daughter Ruth via Mary GLEASON.  Ruth married my Daniel HEMENWAY, snr.  Thank you, sir, and please do take care.
see Samuel 2 Bigelow page 2 for pictures.........................................ROD


Subject: Margaret CLEAR, wife of John WARREN??
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:04:57 EST
From: Brenda Bova   GFSBrenda@aol.com
 
You have this: Margaret CLEAR, b. abt 1590, ,,England, d. 6 Nov 1662, Watertown, Middlesex, MA.{6}
on your website
But I have PROOF that it is incorrect in the form of two will abstracts found in "English Wills of Colonial Families" by Noel Currer-Briggs. I do have copies of both and would be willing to send them to you if you would like to see them. The following is what I have on Margaret's family.
see warren1.htm........................................ROD


Subject: Bigelow/Behling
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 19:21:13 -0600
From: Linda Schwartz   <  lschwartz@mindspring.com  >
   I came across your pages with a link to some of the Behling family from MN/WI.  How are you connected?  My great grandmother was Fredericka Anna Behling, b. 1861 Milwaukee, who married Jacob Frank in Menomonie, WI.
Linda Tremble Schwartz  Glen Ellyn, IL
no connection found but see Hannah 5 .................................ROD 

Subject: Elizabeth Stucky
Date:  Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:43:31 EST
From: Doris Bigelow Scheidemantle    Augwedann@aol.com
 
 Hi Rod.  Greetings from downstate NY! Do you know of any info on Elizabeth Stucky, who married Eliphaz 7 Bigelow,
other than the birth, marriage, and death dates that are on the page for Eliphaz 7?    Just curious- I haven't ever seen anything else about her and would like to know whatever else there is.    Thanks for any info.
Doris Bigelow Scheidemantle
nothing on Elizabeth Stuckey..see Eliphaz 7 Bigelow................ROD


Subject: Looking for family information.
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:18:55 EST
From:Carrie Pugh Christian    FrenchDa28@aol.com
 
My birth name is Carrie Jean Pugh and I am the Daughter of Arnold Edgar Pugh ( d. 1989) My Grandmother's name was Carrie Arnold Pugh she was married to Sterling Bigelow Pugh they were both laid to rest in Massena, NY. I believe my great grandmother's name was Hattie Clarrissa.  Please advise me as to how I can trace my lineage through the Bigelow Family.
Thank you in advance. Carrie Pugh Christian
see Sterling Bigelow 9 Pugh............................................ROD


Subject: Roderick Bigelow
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:52:16 -0600
From: Autumn Hanna <  flimfly@earthlink.net  >
Hi Rod,
Do you have any info on Roderick Bigelow, who lived in Warren County , N.C.? He married Elizabeth  Pattilloe on 20 Nov 1811. I believe  his son Deloney/Delaney born abt  1815 is my gr,gr,gr grandfather. Deloney is listed on the S.C. census 1860 as being 45 years old and married to Margaret (McClellan) age 26. He is listed as a school teacher and born in N.C.  Is this Roderick (12956) the son of Elisha(1295) the same Roderick of Warren County, N.C. There is also a will for Roderick
Bigelow, 1819, in Caswell County N.C. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.   Muril Hanna
see Elisha 4 and Aurelius Deloni 8 Bigelow for more confusion..................................ROD


Subject: Need help
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:41:04 EST
From: Vera Watkins   Penn1023@aol.com
 
Dear Rod
Was looking at your wonderful website. Is there anyone who might know the answer to this question? I am trying to find the ancestry of Katherine and tie her into your family. I am interested in the reunion also.Thank you Vera Watkins
Katherine Baguley, born Abt. 1504 in Warton, Lancashire, England; died Aft. 1558.
She was the daughter William Baguley and  Ellen Bleasdale.
Child of Robert Backus (Bacchus)and Katherine Baguley is:
Robert Bacchus, born 1528 in Over Kellet, Lancashire, England; died Bef. March 14, 1585/86;
married Isabel Bleasdale September 09, 1549.
haven't been able to connect to our William Baguley..........................ROD


Subject: CAN YOU HELP ME WITH MY BIGELOW HISTORY?
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 11:30 PM
From: GINGER (BIGELOW)BEERBOWER mgbigelow@terraworld.net  >
 
HELLO THERE, MY NAME IS GINGER (BIGELOW)BEERBOWER. I'M 23 YEARS OLD. I LIVE IN FORT
SCOTT,KS FOR 5 YEARS NOW. I HAVE 2 CHILDREN I'M MARRIED TO A WONDERFUL MAN NAMED
NATHAN. WE MARRIED IN 1997 I HAVE A 5 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND 2 YEAR SON, I'M RECENTLY
FROM LAMAR ,MO. MY GRANDFATHER PASSED AWAY 1 YEAR AGO, AND BEFORE HE WENT TO
HEAVEN, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT MY FAMILY HISTORY.
I'M PUZZLED BECAUSE MY GRANDPA HAD 3 CHILDREN AND ONLY 2 ARE LIVING.AND I DON'T HAVE
ANY CONTACT WITH MY BIGELOW FAMILY, EXCEPT MY DAD AND SISTERS. SO I DON'T KNOW VERY
MUCH ABOUT THE BIGELOW NAME. MY GRANDPA'S NAME IS EARL BIGELOW HE MARRIED
BERTHA TWISS. THEY LIVED IN LAMAR, MO, AND SHE PASSED AWAY IN 1984 OF CANCER. I KNOW
ONE OF HIS BROTHERS, VIRGIL BIGELOW. HE LIVES IN OHIO (I DON'T KNOW IF HE PASSED AWAY OR
NOT). I 'M SORRY BUT I DO'NT KNOW ANYMORE. MY DAD HAD A BROTHER NAMED RICHARD
(DICK)BIGELOW WHO LIVED IN OREGON. THEN HE PASSED AWAY 1 1/2 YEAR AGO FROM A HEART
ATTACK. HE HAD A SISTER IN CALIFORNIA PHYLISS ?.  MY DAD'S NAME IS DONALD LEE BIGELOW
HE'S FROM SHELDON MO. I KNOW THAT MY DAD'S FAMILY WERE FROM CALIFORNIA AREA AND
THEN MOVED TO OHIO AND LATER MOVED TO LAMAR, MISSOURI. PLEASE TELL ME THAT YOU
HAVE HEARD ABOUT US AND YOU WOULD GIVE ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR
TELL ME HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT MY FAMILY. SINCERLY.
GINGER BEERBOWER
nothing yet..........................................ROD


Subject: Brief History of King Philip's War by Bodge
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 13:36:47 EST
From: Farns10th@aol.com
Attached is the Brief History of King Philip's War by Bodge, transcribed by Janice Farnsworth for those who care to have a copy of the work to add to their collection of early New England history.
see Overview, soldiers.htm and battles.htm  .........................................ROD


Subject: Eunice Bigelow
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:35:22 -0000
From: "John & Diane Campbell" <  jcampbell@rcsis.com  >
Have a little time today so here is the info on Submit G Campbell for your data base.
John Campbell
jcampbell@rcsis.com
see Submit G. Campbell....& Eunice 5 Bigelow........................ROD


Subject: A Bigelow reference FYI
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:39:09 -0800
From: "Ron Roizen"   <  Ron@Roizen.com  >
Hi Rod...
W. David Lewis' book, FROM NEWGATE TO DANNEMORA : THE RISE OF THE PENITENTIARY IN NEW YORK, 1796-1848 (Ithaca: Cornell U. Press, 1965), makes mention of a John Bigelow who was apparently an inspector at Sing Sing prison.  Bigelow, Lewis writes, was an innovator, and among other things sought to allow prisoners a ration of chewing tobacco.  "[I]t will be the source of great happiness to the poor devils," wrote Bigelow in his diary in February, 1846 (quoted in Lewis, p. 242ff).
Lewis describes Bigelow on p. 241 as follows:  "Bigelow was young, well educated, and idealistic.  He had tried his hand at being a lawyer, a writer, and a journalist, and at this stage of his career was dissatisfied with his accomplishments.  At first, he appears to have accepted the inspectorship primarily as 'an office which without complicating my position in politics establishes me in the confidence and respect of men whose consideration it is desirable to maintain,' but soon became genuinely interested in penal problems."
Lewis' footnotes note that an MS diary of this John Bigelow is available at the New York Public Library.  Also noted are two books:  (1) Margaret Clapp, FORGOTTEN FIRST CITIZEN: JOHN BIGELOW, Boston, 1947 and (2) John Bigelow, RETROSPECTIONS OF AN ACTIVE LIFE, New York, 1909-1913.
All the best, Ron Roizen
see John 7 Bigelow........................................ROD


Subject: Documentary of Elizabeth Fones Winthrop Feake Hallet
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:29:25 -0500
From: Gunnar Sahlin     <     sahlin@snet.net   >
 
Our TV production company is nearing completion of a documentary on Elizabeth Fones Winthrop Feake Hallet, who came to America on the same ship as Bigelow.  The documentary on Elizabeth, a window to 17th century New England women, will be aired on public broadcasting stations in June.  Do you have an interest in the subject? YES
Coline Jenkins-Sahlin
Third Wave Television
cocococo@juno.com
see Winthrop Woman...............................................ROD


Subject: Rosetta Bigelow
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:00:39 -0800
From: "RainvilleD" <  RainvilleD@email.msn.com  >

I have had a wonderful time reading about my family, from Rosetta Bigelow on back.  She married Alonzo Chapman and two generations later my grandmother came along.  Wonderful reading!
One question re Nathan 16164.  On the John 1616 page it says he died in1822, and on his page is says 1816.
I am using my husband's login.  My email is susanrainville@hotmail.com     Sue
More: 2/16/2000
I am the Great-great-granddaughter of Alonzo Chapman and Rosette or Rosetta Bigelow.  They had two sons, Amos Chapman and Hiram Agustus, who married Rachel Ann Deal or Dale.  I can find nothing about her parents except a possibility her parents were "Dale" and "Paugh", but I remember my Grandmother saying her name was Rachel Dale and she died when my Grandmother, Rachel Irene Grace Chapman (b4/8/1888, d 4/2/1970) was a little girl.  The birthdate I have for her, Rachel Ann Dale (or Deal), copied from the family Bible, was 3/18/1848.
see Joseph 6 Bigelow.................................ROD



OLD Subject: BIGELOW, Henry Veeder
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:53:04 +0000
From: Luke Huisman <    lukashuisman@compusmart.ab.ca   >
I'm searching for the family links of Henry Veeder BIGELOW, who married Mary Tupper on July 17, 1900 in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia.  She was born Nov 21, 1877 in Bay of Islands, Newfoundland, the daughter of John S. Tupper and Elizabeth Blanchard Waddell.  Henry was the son of James Edward Bigelow and Henrietta Agnes Hood, about whom I have no
information.  I'm assuming from the location that James Edward was a descendant of Amasa Bigelow, b. Feb 11, 1755 in Colchester, New London, CT, d. 1799 in Cornwallis, Kings Co., NS and his wife Roxanna ( or Rosena) Cole, but am missing some generations.
Also, - does anyone have the name of Roxanna (or Rosena) Cole's mother? Her father was Reuben Cole, b. May 30, 1723 in East Haddam, Middlesex, CT., d. 1798 in Nova Scotia, and his wife shows up in the records only as "Nem".
Regards,
Luke Huisman
169 Pleasant View Estates, 53431 Range Road 221
Ardrossan, Alberta T8E 2K8
Ph. (780) 922-7651
e-mail: lukashuisman@compusmart.ab.ca
see James Edward 8 & Henry Veeder 9 Bigelow.............................................ROD


Name: Nancy L. Owen    <  nancyo@gbso.net  >
From: Interlachen, FL
Time: 2000-02-15 00:55:38
Comments: This has been on my "Favorites" since 1998, just after Mr. Bigelow died. I think. Real happy to see all the
 improvements you have added, and that it is now updated to 1/2000. I have been comparing my pages of "LOOMER
 FAMILY AND ALLIED LINES" and the pages on BIGELOW researched in the Burton Collection of the Detroit Main
 Library before 1981. My information shows Isaac (gen4) Bigelow married to Abigail Skinner, daughter of Ebenezer and
 Sarah (Lord) Skinner. (not Abigail Lord) I am a descendant of 1592C.t AMASA BIGELOW (gen 5) m. Rosina (Roxanna)
 Cone. If I hunt further in your pages, I hope to find them,. I am so far, very pleased with your beautiful work. Hope to see
 more about Vol. II. Used to get the FORGE", AND HAVE MANY OLD COPIES ON MY SHELF. Used to live in
 Pontiac, Mi. and attended 1 reunion held in Daytona, FL. Thank you for all you are doing. Keep it up. There are quite a
 number of BIGELOW descendants who moved to S.E. Wisconsin. I am also descended from Amasa's daughter SARAH
 BIGELOW who m. Benjamin Rand. Have pictures of her, and her sister Ruby in an album. Further tracing goes to daughter of Sarah Bigelow and Benjamin Rand to dau: Lavina Ann Rand m. James McHugh (my greatgreat grandparents) and then their
daughter Mary Jane McHugh b. 1841 m. Harris Loomer. I have 2 large framed pictures of these, my great-grandparents in
my home office! There is a large annual reunion of the LOOMER FAMILY ASSOCIATION in Walworth Co. WI.
(#68 in August.)
More:
I am preparing a number of pages copied from a book that I compiled in 1982.   Some of the information was exerpted from Loring Bigelow's FORGE articles and are in more details than what you are presenting. Perhaps other will also be interested in these pages.  I also have added in the pages of the descendants through my lines. I am Nancy Lee Hanson Owen in generation 12.   I have included the known descendants through the Bigelow Lines and my LOOMER cousins. You have a great
Web site going.
see Amasa 5 and Sarah 6 Bigelow...........................................ROD

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